We kept up
our New Year's Eve tradition of going to see a movie with a friend, this time
going to see Into the Woods.
The movie
had its flaws, but from the available choices it was the one that best fit the
parameters of what we wanted for the night, and it had it's moments. It also
generated a few interesting thoughts.
Those
thoughts may be best summed up by a question Julie asked me: "What was the
point?"
My initial
response was "No point really", but that isn't quite fair. The most
basic point is that you can wish for things, and you can get those things, but
that doesn't solve all of your problems. Maybe it wasn't everything you thought
it would be. A fairy tale ending is that your wish is granted and then it ends,
quickly, before anything else can go wrong. That isn't generally how life
works.
I was also
thinking of how Freudian the imagery was, not just Little Red Riding Hood and
the Wolf, but with the overall motif of things being different in the woods.
Actually, my thought with that was that I felt like I could see Bettelheim's
grimy little fingers all over it.
That is not
impossible. The Uses of Enchantment is from 1976, and has been fairly
influential, so it could easily have had some impact on either Sondheim and Lapine
or even just the production designer for this film. That reminded me that
Freud's influence has lasted a lot longer than I realized. I know he was still
big in the 60s, but I sort of thought that as you were getting into the 80s
people were starting to take him less seriously, and that may not be the case.
(Actually,
I was reading some interesting things on his theories of dream interpretation
Saturday, so that may come up again.)
I guess
that's what got me thinking about different versions. I saw a local production
a few years ago. The first act ended with a big musical number where everyone was
out onto stage and everyone had what they wanted, singing together "And
happily ever after!" It seemed
really great, but then there was an announcement to come back after the
intermission, and a giant starts trampling around, and there is death and
adultery and complications. The no fairy tale ending point was really driven
home by that.
I saw that
show because a friend's wife was playing the Narrator, but I saw it with
another friend who had studied it in college, and as we discussed it there was
some insight there. This was a while ago. Both of those friends have children
now who weren't born then but are getting kind of big.
Going even
farther back, a different friend made some points from it speaking in church
long ago, and what I suddenly remembered at the movie is that there were two
things he mentioned that I was looking for in the play, but didn't happen. I
thought maybe they would be in the movie, but they weren't there either.
One was
just a line, maybe even ad-libbed, with the Baker and his Wife, while getting
ready to undertake some subterfuge, saying "The end justifies the
beans!" It wouldn't have fit into the movie.
The other
was that "Children Will Listen" seems to have been more of a
highlight. There is a version of that song that people do as solos, but in the show
I saw they only used the despairing version of it, and in the movie it was sort
of background music over the end.
Putting all
of that together got me kind of amazed at how many different plays you can find
within one play, by choosing which numbers to perform, and which to skip, and
how they are delivered, and all of the choices that the director and the
performers make.
You can
make a theme about a belief in happy endings being naive, but you could also
focus on no one being alone or on the influence adults have on children. Those
are just the first three that come to mind. Some of those shows would be more
fun to watch, and some less. Maybe you just put your favorite songs in, and
it's a mess but it's a well-sung mess. I'm sure that happens sometimes.
Anyway, I
found that interesting, and a testament to the power of theater.
For the
movie itself, I liked the stage version I saw better; it was more robust. I did
like James Corden and I thought Meryl Streep was great. Some of that was her
performance, but also they had a lot of fun with her entrances and exits, which
were well-executed.
I thought I
was nostalgic for a time when Johnny Depp could play something other than weird
caricatures, but now I'm wondering if that was a false memory all along.
I did feel
like it was a bit of a cheat to lose the "Agony" reprise, because not
having the both princes be equally sorry schmucks takes away some of the play's
bite, but that made Rapunzel's storyline really sweet, and let Billy Magnussen
be heroic, so I'm going to take it.
I'm not
sure it was valuable to raise the ethics of killing the second giant and then
just morph into "No One Is Alone". It doesn't really answer the
question, and you could get to the song by other means. But, hypothetically
speaking, that type of decision making might be exactly the sort of thing that
could have viewers leaving the theater wondering what the point was.